Talk:For contact and Discussion/@comment-4829254-20120212212124/@comment-4820033-20120212220213

Perhaps he means "recovering videos without checking copyright"?

In that case he's right. And it can also be dangerous to the uploader, because of the "threat of perjury". Before recovering videos by counter-claim one does need to check copyright.

This is also what I wrote in the FAQ - original text of Feb 5, not a recent edit:

http://savemiku.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ#If_a_video_is_deleted.2C_what_can_one_do_to_put_it_back.3F

= the uploader must ensure that they have the necessary copyright authorization - otherwise they open themselves up to charges of perjury (false judicial claims). This may not be easy for them, as contacting original producers is sometimes hard (especially for someone who does not understand Japanese). =

Also, before I wrote that, on Jan 23, Myst wrote on vocaloidotaku.net: "I say before we go reporting things, contact the producers who made the songs that were reprinted and ask to see what the company might be."

I wish I could mail a Guinness beer to Daifuku-P, but unfortunately it is not allowed to send liquids in the mail. Our opinions don't even differ, and I hope he will realize that people in the West DID note the need to check copyright.

But I also suggest we should be realistic when evaluating these past days.

The first reaction was for teenagers and by teenagers. "Save our cute Miku, do whatever can be done! Counter-claim can be done? Please counter-claim!" . Then there was an explosion of art on the theme - pictures, videos, even fan fiction. *But* some real investigation also started in the thread on vocaloidotaku.net. I joined that one at some point.

Yes, there were many more people in the angry reactions than in the actual investigation. Teenagers will be like that. We all love virtual teenager Miku. I think she would have done just the same if HER favourite videos started going away. I wonder if you can translate the words "knee jerk reaction" into Japanese.

And what else can one expect from teenage fans, an article on the philosophy and history of copyright? (I can write one all right. But I'm 34, and in the Linux crowd for 10 years).

(Now that I said this, I would really love Owata-P's opinion on the subject. The real expert in virtual teenagers. RinChan Nau is awesome).

P.S. I am asking on vocaloidotaku.net to see if some songs are still gone *completely* from YT.